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Offline JustanotherPE

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Chillers
« on: Dec 08, 2016, 21:21 »
Does anyone know if having large chillers count as firing time or is it only boilers? Under the safety standards act Refrigeration plants require a 4th class PE. So would that be considered a 4th class plant? or just a refrigeration plant
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Offline AndyS

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Re: Chillers
« Reply #1 on: Dec 10, 2016, 05:15 »
All depends on the plant, size, etc...Just call the safety authority and give them the specs/info and they can confirm for you.
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Offline Jason R

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Re: Chillers
« Reply #2 on: Dec 14, 2016, 13:35 »
If it's British Columbia, and you are the chief engineer of a fourth-class refrigeration plant, it will take three years to get the firing time needed for third-class.

From the BC Regulations
Application for third class power engineer's certificate of qualification  17(1)  An applicant for a third class power engineer's certificate of qualification must
(a) hold a second class marine engineer (motor) certificate of competency, or
(b) hold a fourth class power engineer's certificate of qualification or a standardized fourth class power engineer's certificate of qualification and have been employed, while in possession of a fourth class power engineer's certificate of qualification, for a period of not less than
(i)  12 months as a power engineer in a position requiring a fourth class power engineer's certificate of qualification in a power plant that is fourth class plant, third class plant, second class plant or first class plant;
(ii)  24 months as a chief engineer, shift engineer or assistant shift engineer of a fourth class heating plant, or
(iii)  36 months as a chief engineer of a fourth class plant other than a power plant or a heating plant.            
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Re: Chillers
« Reply #3 on: Dec 17, 2016, 10:08 »
 Jason but what makes it a 4th class Refrigeration plant? it requires a 4th for refrigeration plants but whats the guidelines?
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Re: Chillers
« Reply #4 on: Dec 17, 2016, 12:59 »
It's a little cryptic in the Regulations but, based on my interpretation, a regulated (read as fourth-class) refrigeration plant can be either:

An indirect refrigeration plant, as defined in CSA B52, using refrigerant R 11 and all other refrigeration plants with refrigerant groups A1, A2 or B1, as defined in CSA B52, exceeding a total plant capacity of 200 kW prime mover nameplate rating;

A refrigeration plant with refrigerant groups A3, B2 or B3, as defined in CSA B52, exceeding a total plant capacity of 50 kW prime mover nameplate rating. (This is a direct refrigerant plant)

- Note: Bold words are from me to emphasize the word. Blue words in brackets are my notes. 
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Re: Chillers
« Reply #5 on: Feb 25, 2017, 21:37 »
did you find that in the b52 code book?
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Re: Chillers
« Reply #6 on: Feb 28, 2017, 01:45 »
It's in the BC Regulations.
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